By Geri Koeppel
Last year, Phoenix Democrat Rep. Patty Contreras sat in the Capitol and listened as one of her fellow representatives, Lupe Diaz of Benson, said the U.S. was “unrighteous” because of people like her, who are part of the LGBTQ+ community.
That moment sticks in Contreras’ mind as an example of the “ignorance” she said consumes many people with the Republican Party in power at the Capitol.
But that hasn’t stopped Contreras from continuing to fight for the dignity of her community. Reporter Geri Koeppel spoke with Contreras about that moment, as well as the future of progressive legislation and how she and her wife are planning for a future in which same-sex marriage is taken away.
Geri Koeppel (LOOKOUT): Thanks for taking the time to talk with me, Patty. First off, do you have a sense of the type and number of anti-LGBTQ+ bills that might come up again in the legislative session?
Rep. Patty Contreras: I’m not sure how many will come up, but unfortunately, we're seeing hundreds of them throughout the country—these anti-LGBTQ+ bills. I know Senator Kavanaugh has already dropped a couple of bills. And it’s unfortunate because we're just regular people, and here they want to make us into "others." Senator [John] Kavanagh [of Fountain Hills] seems to have such an issue with gay people, especially our trans population. That’s very unfortunate because they’re just trying to live their own lives.
GK: On that note: As a lesbian, you have to work with these folks—lawmakers with fairly extreme viewpoints on the community—who openly intimidate and try to take away the rights of LGBTQ+ people who want to live in peace. Do you see any hope for building bridges with these fellow legislators like Kavanagh someday?
PC: It’s unfortunate, but I don’t think we can get through to some of these folks. I mean, I work with them, and they all seem like decent people. I hope they think I’m a decent person. But some of them are just so—I don’t know what word to use; I’ll say ignorant—so ignorant of the fact that we exist. We’ve existed for as long as humans have existed—lesbians, gay people, trans people, and more. I’m really offended that they think they need to make laws to dictate my life—how I live and who I love.
I’ll give an example of their ignorance. Last year, Easter coincided with Trans Day of Visibility, which is always on March 31st. One of the legislators, who is a pastor, got up the next day and practically delivered a sermon vilifying trans people and the fact that the President had made a statement about Trans Day of Visibility. Easter falls on a different day every year, but Trans Day of Visibility is always March 31st. It just happened to overlap that year. He acted like, “How dare they, on the holiest day of the year, bring up trans people.” I thought, “Oh my God, you are so ignorant.” It infuriated me and made me so mad that they can’t see beyond their ignorance.
GK: When you hear those things from somebody you have to work with and negotiate with, how does that make you feel?
PC: I feel like I’m not being heard. Unfortunately, he’s entrenched in his view as much as I am in mine. I think people should figure out how to live together and respect each other. His view is, “You’re gay, you’re bad,” and I think my view is much more respectful of people than his. It’s really hard for me to get beyond that. We need mutual respect—yes—but you need to respect me if you expect me to respect you.
GK: So, extrapolating that to your constituents and other LGBTQ+ people in the state, what message does it send to the state and the world when legislators have such extreme stances that they make people feel like refugees?
PC: I get people telling me they’re afraid to be out and be who they are. I’ve been out for over 40 years, but 40 years ago, it was a whole different time. I was basically closeted. I wouldn’t say, “I’m gay, I’m lesbian,” but I never hid it if people asked. Nowadays, with social media being so prominent, young people are hearing all these negative things about gay people, and it’s hurting them.
Our LGBTQ+ caucus in the state Legislature is out there for them. We will protect them to the best of our ability. We fight on the floor and in committees for gays, lesbians, trans people—all of our community—because it’s so important that they understand there are people out there supporting them.
GK: How exactly can legislators like you and other like-minded people support them when you can’t get legislation passed and can’t often block the hate legislation?
PC: The hate legislation does go through, and that’s very unfortunate. I’ve seen testimony from young people laying their lives on the line, talking about how hard it is for them with bullying and non-acceptance. Yet, we have legislators who will still vote against these young people who are just trying to live their authentic lives. Unfortunately, as a Democratic minority, we can’t get the votes. But we can make our stand on the floor and in committees. Right now, we have Governor Hobbs to back us up and veto hateful bills. That veto is a powerful tool, and it’s so important we have Katie Hobbs there because, without her, such crazy bills could pass.
GK: How does it make you feel personally when people say they don’t feel safe here and their only choice is to leave the state?
PC: I get that. My wife is one of those people. She thinks everything is going to come down on us, that they’re going to round us up or take away our rights. Right now, we have a Democratic attorney general and governor who will protect our rights, but the future is uncertain. My wife and I are meeting with lawyers to make sure our wills and trusts are in order in case something happens. We need to have what we want documented and lawful.
I actually have a friend in Florida who’s changing his name to match his partner’s so they’ll be considered “brothers” legally if gay marriage is overturned. Arizona still has anti-gay laws on the books, and if the federal government dissolves legalized marriage, those laws could come back into effect. My wife and I were married in 2008 in California during a brief window when it was allowed. I’d hope we’d be grandfathered in, but there are no guarantees in this environment.
GK: How do you feel when lifelong residents of Arizona say they don’t feel they have a future here?
PC: It’s heartbreaking. I’m a third-generation Arizonan, and I’ve tried to live my life authentically. I worked for the City of Phoenix, which had gay rights protections, and that was great. People need to find supportive communities and jobs. But I get that people feel unsafe and worry about their families. It’s so unfortunate because Arizona is such a beautiful state. I just wish this wasn’t an issue. We’re just regular people trying to live our lives, have families, and be productive members of society.